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Monday, October 5, 2009
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Paypal Subscription Payments now available
Published by: yuga under: Netrepreneur.8 replies
posted: September 14th, 2008
Last Friday, I was able to meet up and have a short meeting with Paypal’s Head of Asia Merchant Services based in Singapore and discuss some important developments both in the state of local e-commerce and the role Paypal wants to play in the market.
One of the more useful features of Paypal is the subscription or recurring payments which automatically bill people on a regular basis. This feature wasn’t available for Philippine Paypal accounts until recently.
As the Philippines is an emerging market, there’s huge potential here that’s why Paypal have been diligently pushing their services in the country. Below is a quick run down of the issues we talked about:
- Size of the market. Only about 1 million Filipinos have credit cards in the Philippines. That’s less than 2% of the total population. There’s a huge gap that Paypal wants to fill in. Their primary goal is to tap the merchants to offer Paypal payments as an alternative to credit cards.
- The Subscription & Recurring Payments. A month or two ago, this feature wasn’t available for Philippine Paypal users (my US Paypal account had it). It was a feature I really wanted so I don’t have to send billing requests for my advertisers every end of the month. This can be access via the Merchant Tools tab inside your Paypal account.
- Paypal Plus Credit Card by Mastercard. I was told this is only available if you have a Paypal account in the US, Australia or UK. This is only offered to highly saturated markets where credit card penetration and total market volume is very high.
- Withdrawal Limits. There are no withdrawal limits when you withdraw thru your bank but there’s a $500 maximum limit when you withdraw via credit card. The credit card limit is a security measure against potential credit card fraud.
- Additional Bank Fees. We’re already familiar on how much Paypal charges for withdrawal transactions (EFT). That’s $5 for each credit card withdrawal and Php50 for bank withdrawals less than Php7,000. Beyond that, Paypal has no control whatsoever and it looks like banks also add charges for these EFTs which is usually Php200. We’re not sure if these are clearing charges or bank wire charges.
- Effective Foreign Exchange Rates. It’s pretty obvious that when doing withdrawals the existing FOREX rates are below the current rates. That’s actually a 2% exchange rate fee — this is where the banks make money off of dealing with Paypal.
- Local Currency. I’ve heard some people were interested to have a Peso Paypal currency in their account. Philippine Paypal accounts are still in US Dollars. There are a ton of paperworks and requirements that are needed to be done in order to do this.
- Philippine Paypal Office. They have people working off of their Hong Kong office. A Philippine office is still nowhere in sight as there’s no immediate need for it now.
The number of Paypal users in the Philippines has grown a lot since Paypal offered bank withdrawals but they cannot comment on the exact number as corporate policy. We talked about several other things that I can’t share publicly though. Still, it’s nice to learn Paypal has its eyes focused on the Philippine market.
Update: I have two Paypal accounts. One 5-year old US Paypal and a 2-year old Philippine account. Comments below indicate that the Subscription fetaure has been there for months already though mine did not show it until recently (I compared the Philippine account and the US account).
How to Verify Paypal Philippines using EON Visa Debit Credit Card
How to Verify Paypal Philippines using EON Visa Debit Credit Card
How to have a verified Paypal in the Philippines using UnionBank’s EON Visa Debit Credit Card. Follow my steps and have it verified without failed in less than a month! Works 100% of the time.
Verify Paypal Philippines using EON Visa Debit Credit Card
Hi folks, do you lived in the Philippines, with Philippines now a Paypal country, the perks of eBAY merchandising, selling and buying; the freelance works done from outsourcing can all be paid and used through Paypal.
Paypal is an online cash system widely accepted all through out the internet since way back early in the 90’s. Paypal Philippines is just a couple of years old, and with Western Union’s crazy fees and the non participation of Philippine Banks to Money transfer from banks around across the world, Paypal has become an ideal monetary exchange program for Filipinos all through out the Archipealago.
Why the need to be a Verified Paypal User?
Answer is simple, you cannot withdraw the money in your Paypal account unless you become a verified user. You will have limits in your accounts, like the amount that you can transfer is limited to only a few couple of hundreds of dollars, and the amount you can received is just a few thousand. Worst you can’t take your Paypal funds and have them in your bank account even though you have clearly state in the interface in the website correct amounts and bank details. In short, just get verified and you will see the big greens ahead
How did I become Verified? Simple steps are listed below:
First you’re gonna need a Credit Card. I have 4 Credit cards, but none I used for online transactions. Why? I have been a victim of hacking on my MasterCard before so I decided to use debit Visa cards instead after that incident.
The best way to get a debit credit card is through banks that offers them. BPI offers MasterCards debit cards through Express Cash banking systems, but the one I liked most is non other than UnionBanks EON Visa Card. Because it’s a Visa Credit Card but with the debit twist. You have to go to a UnionBank branch near you or the place you work to apply for one.
Requirements are 2 valid ID’s, one is premium or government supplied and the other as supplementary or Company supplied. Bring in a wooping $125.00 [it’s peso btw lol] as a transaction fee of some sorts. Then after 2-3 weeks get back at the bank and get your VISA debit Credit Card. But be ready with another wooping $350.00 [again change the amount to peso lol] for the annual fee, and plug in a good 500 peso bill in the counter to have the card some transaction history. This is important. Don’t skip the steps above.
After 2-3 days go to your UnionBank’s ATM machine and check your savings balance. If you see your 500 pesoses in there then all is good, go to a nearby church and thank God.
EON Cyber Account application is a Must
Then after a few hours or even minutes or yes even seconds go online and apply for UnionBank’s EON online banking, you won’t miss it, I don’t want to give live links so use Google and search “unionbank philippines” or something like that and register. Then you have to wait 1-3 weeks depending on the mood of the data entry guy till your EON online banking gets approved.
Now go and log in to your Paypal account, click on the lift the limits tab and add the EON Visa Credit card. If you are able to Log in now to the EON online Banking, ebanking or Cyber account thinggamagig then in less than 48 hours you can get the EXPUSE number needed to have for your Paypal to have it’s limits waived off.
The EXPUSE is next to the transaction thing with the word PAYPAL written all over.
And there you have it, Paypal will deduct atleast a 100+ pesos in your EON Visa Card and will gladly pay you back the $1.95 [this time its USD] through Paypals credits.
I reckon you will try and apply for a premium Paypal membership to get the ball rolling and have all the limits erase for you to withdraw the money in your account to your EON Credit Card. Paypal will take 3 days for the money to clear and have transaction completed and your UnionBank system will eat up 3-5 days to have the money showing in your EON Card Account. After which you can swipe and buy stuff with your VISA Card or if not withdraw the money in an ATM and enjoy life to the fullest. LOL
Over all time frame till SHOW ME THE MONEY. This is a rough estimate to erase all your high hopes NOYPI style.
14-28 days , 2-3 Weeks = EON Debit Visa Credit Card Application
2-3 days = EON Debit Visa Credit Card test transaction e.g. ATM money check account balance etc.
7-28 days, 1-3 Weeks = EON Debit Visa Credit Card Cyber Account or eBanking application and approval
1-3 days = EON Debit Visa Credit Card added to Paypal and to have Paypal send you the EXPUSE number
1-2 days = EON Debit Visa Credit Card Cyber Account or eBanking online shows the EXPUSE number
1-2 days = EON Debit Visa Credit Card Cyber added to Paypal with Expuse number and become Verified
7-14 days 1-2 Weeks= Withdrawing and Clearing of money to your EON Debit Visa Credit Card from Paypal
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TOTAL = roughly 4-8 Weeks till you get your online money to be going straight to the real world. Not bad eh? That’s life live with it.
Oh before I forget after you have done a couple of transaction, withdrawing, recieving and adding money to Paypal and EON, the next clearing period becomes 24 hours to 2 days combined, guess having trust works in online automated systems too. Cache or Caching! LOL kthnxbai
Sunday, October 4, 2009
Internet banking and visa debit card???
HOW TO USE PAYPAL WITH A THAI BANK ACCOUNT AND HOW TO TRANSFER MONEY: KASIKORN BANK AND OTHER THAI BANKS
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HOW TO USE PAYPAL WITH A THAI BANK ACCOUNT AND HOW TO TRANSFER MONEY: KASIKORN BANK AND OTHER THAI BANKS
How to use Paypal to transfer funds from the US
1- Open a Thai bank account, for example at Kasikorn Bank, just need a passport and a Thai address (where the bank will never send any document, so any hotel address is ok)
Fill the forms, deposit some money, pay few hundreds bank for the ATM card (300 THB at Kasikorn Bank), you will get the card on the spot along with a sealed document that include the PIN code. You can keep this number or change it at any ATM.
2 - Open a new Paypal account: as it is not possible to add a Thai bank to a US PayPal account someone who want to use Paypal with a Thai bank account must open a second PayPal account and designate Thailand as the country.
3 - When opening the Thai bank account also apply for internet access to this account: to add the Kasikorn bank account to the Thai PayPal account you need to have online access (a K-cyber account) to the Thai bank account, so when you open your Thai bank account also apply for the K-cyber access and you will get the log in info by email.
4 - You will receive an email within 24 hours from Kasikorn bank telling that my K-cyber account is set up and giving you a log in and password. On your initial log in both password and user name have to be changed and the bank also requires a second password for any transactions. This can either be done via SMS or you can create a second password to use when you won't be in-country when making a transaction, and create it at Kasikorn web site, athttp://www.kasikornbank.com/portal/site/kbank. From the drop down menu, select Service Channels, then Internet, then K-Cyber Banking. A new window will open.
5 - In order to make online purchases or transactions there is another step. On Kasikorn Bank website you have to create a K-web shopping virtual credit card, which is a simple application, requiring the second password, and within 24 hours you will have a virtual credit card. It means that you will be emailed a 16-digit number (the same as a credit card), expiration date, and a CCV (the three digits on the back of the card). All of this is virtual, and this is an additional security step that the bank uses.
6 - Log in to your Thai Paypal account, add the virtual account info (which is linked to the Kasikorn account), and the card will be accepted. PayPal requires verification and will deduct $1.95 (around 60 baht) from the account and the transaction will be listed as "PAYPAL1234" or "1234PAPAL". The four digits will then have to be posted to the PayPal account to verify. In the US, a few cents is deposited and then you have to enter that information to verify the transaction. Once verified, PayPal will reimburse the $1.95.
7 - Receive email confirmation that PayPal has deducted money from your account and the email has the four digits you need to confirm my account. Go back to your Thai PayPal account and enter the four digits and you're done, now you have an online account and can go shopping online, transfer money, and any other operation available with a Paypal account.
8 - To test the transfer of funds from US PayPal to Thai PayPal send money with your Thai Paypal account to your US Paypal account, and receive immediate confirmation by email that the transaction has been completed. Log into your Thai PayPal account and see that the funds are available and accept the transfer.
9 - To transfer some money from PayPal to you Thai Kasikorn bank you have to click on "add a bank account" but as this is a Thai paypal account everything will be written in Thai, so open a second window and go to the Kasikorn web site and compare the Thai script to find your bank in the drop down window in Thai Paypal, it's the second bank listed.
Select it, and next is a confirmation page, Kasikorn Bank is now in English.
Confirm the transfer and the next window informs you that it will take five to seven days for the transfer (a little longer than US PayPal, which is three to four days).
The bank account must be entered without the dashes.
This process should work with any Thai bank, so if you try this with one of these Thai banks please let a comment on this website:
ACL Bank, Bangkok Bank, BankThai, Bank of Ayudhya, Kiatnakin Bank, Krung Thai Bank, Mega International Bank, Siam City Bank, Siam Commercial Bank, Standard Chartered Bank, TMB Bank, Thanachart Bank, Tisco Bank, Union Overseas Bank UOB.
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Friday, October 2, 2009
PayPal in Thailand
PayPal makes a small deposit into your account. A security code is part of the deposit. I could not see the code with use of online banking, so I called Bangkok Bank and they knew exactly what I was asking for and gave me the code.
Now I had a confirmed account. In order to remove restrictions you need to upgrade to PayPal's Premium account. That was simple. One click of a button on the PayPal site and I was instantly upgraded.
If you are going to withdraw funds from your PayPal account by having them deposit your funds into your Thai bank account, they charge 50 baht if the withdrawal is less than 5000 baht. If it is greater than 5000 baht there is no charge.
After having done that, it was time for "proof of the pudding." PayPal's web site says it takes 5 to 7 business days for the deposit to go through to a Thai bank account. On Sunday night I transferred money from my PayPal account to my Bangkok Bank account. Today is Thursday. This morning, 9:00am I checked my account and the money I transferred had arrived.
So, not only does it really work, but it only took 3 business days.
That offers some alternatives. For example, if you have a Thai boyfriend, if he has a Thai bank account then you can have him open a PayPal account and transfer money to him via PayPal.
Also, if you hold a Thai bank account and wish to avoid those 150 baht ATM fees, then you can do as I did and transfer money from PayPal into your own Thai bank account, and then use your Thai ATM card when you are in Thailand. At any ATM in Thailand the fee for a withdrawal is usually 25 baht. If you are in the province where you opened your Thai bank account, then if you use your own bank's ATMs, there is no withdrawal fee at all.
Be advised that while PayPal issues a debit card of their own upon request, they do not issue a debit card based on a Thai bank account.